Johar being careful and respectful, utilising his charisma for kindness (instead of using it, as he usually does, for conversational kink). So respectful that he even refuses to use the word “failure” when it comes to a phase in Deol’s career.
Both the Deol brothers’ careers have the arc of a boomerang — success goes and comes. The reason he furnishes in the episode is the professionalisation of the film industry.
Johar, refuses to speak of the success of the film as a phenomenon that charged a very different demographic, a different audience. It is easier, I suppose, to speak of success generically, universally.
Then, there is Bobby Deol, coming out strong with shows like Aashram (2020), Love Hostel(2022), and now the upcoming Animal. His story is more familiar, given the interviews where he wept with heart, of the Failure, While Deol is walking through his life as a series of conclusions, of claims
Naughty, too, rephrasing Sunny Deol’s love for teddy bears as a kink questions try to yank more out of Bobby Deol. “Do you remember the exact moment when you got out of this?” asks Johar. The exact moment.